Incognigo Montoya

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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  Desirous of Change, as Tameria said, small children and babies, who are too young to be vaccinated, are still susceptible to the measles virus, as well as others. Also, just because you've been vaccinated does not mean you can't contract measles, although it's a pretty small chance.

  Tameria, yes, I've read about the Autism link to vaccinations being debunked, but that doesn't keep parents from still using it as an excuse, and some are still truly afraid of it. I had my children vaccinated, but I understand parents being concerned about possible side effects. I just dont get parents who are too lazy to get their kid vaccinated, but that's what I think happens when generations are fortunate enough not to grow up in a world where millions were dying from it, and every parent was worried. How easily people take for granted, and forget.
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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  ...and yes, it's crazy how certain people shame you for not getting your flu shot. And that's been my experience as well, people I know, getting flu shots, later getting the flu. It's like in the last 10 years it became the thing to do. Suddenly the news started reporting and commenting on it, like it has always been a commonplace thing, kinda like naming winter storms like they're hurricanes. Suddenly, they're doing it like it's always been done, and I'm over here like, wtf, when did this start and why is everyone acting like this is normal now??? Lol
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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  I avoid taking any medicines. I'll let things run their course and take a day or two, off, if I have to. I rarely take cold medicine, aspirin, pepto, or anything, other than vitamins, or vitamin boosters, such as Airborne or Emergen c. I figure the less chemical I put in my body, the better off I'll be, and if and when I do need it, the more effective it will be at doing it's job.

  As far as Btf's go, I've had a couple, due to an emergency situation. Long story I won't get into here, but suffice to say, I came out alive, healthy, unscathed, and completely look at it differently now. If you would like more details, pm me.
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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  Min, there are some people who believe there is a link between vaccinations of children, and autism. Basically that it can cause autism in an otherwise healthy child. I believe there's also other arguments to other life changing side effects in otherwise healthy children. I think some of the parents who refuse to vaccinate are actually scared of a crippling side effect, but the vast majority is just parents being too lazy to go get it done, and then using the side effect theory as an excuse. That's just speculation on my part. I guess there's also people who dont because of religious beliefs, though I'm not sure what the belief is or why it keeps them from doing it. Perhaps someone else can explain it.
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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  I have never gotten a flu shot either, min, though I may when I get older and more susceptible. I have always had a very healthy immune system when it comes to common illnesses, and believe that allowing your body to run through the cycle of getting sick, especially when you're young and healthy, helps build a stronger immune system. What always troubles me about the flu shot, is that they dont always get the strain right, and the possibility of you still contracting the flu remains pretty high, 40% if you're a healthy adult! Since I rarely get sick, generally once every other year or two, so, I figure, why screw with a good thing?

  On the other hand, getting a serious illness, like the measles, can be disastrous to small children and infants, who aren't old enough to get a vaccine, and even though the percentage is small, that you can contract the disease if you've been immunized, there's still a chance, like 7%, that you can still contract it, and so, it's just good preventative medicine to go ahead and vaccinate your children when they are old enough. Why risk an epidemic?

  Btw, my percentages are rough and based on a small bit of past research. There may be better numbers someone who has a better medical background, or better, more recent research, may have to share.
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  Mandatory Vaccinations...are you for or against ??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s now a measles outbreak.

  there is a jewish sect in new york that refuses vaccines.

  some parents do not want their children vaccinated..

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  If seatbelts are mandatory and enforced with fines, then vaccinations should be as well. Children not vaccinated, should not be allowed in school, or other public institutions/venues.
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  A Must Read Update on WBTS and Darkspilver from reddit

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us know that watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement:.

  tl;dr: on april 9, watch tower filed a response to the eff's motion to quash (filed march 26) regarding the subpoena submitted to reddit in an attempt to find /u/darkspilver's identity.. the wt response is publicly available here as a pdf, from the site court listener.. a number of other documents relating to the case are available on the same site, here.. and the eff's motion to quash is available on the eff's website here.. details: as i'm sure many of us know, watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain /u/darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement.

  specifically, watch tower is claiming copyright infringement for two things: first, darkspilver posted the back page of the november 2018 watchtower which was an article entitled "what gift can we give to jehovah?” which explained how to donate.

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  WT is less interested in defending it's copyright, and focused on divulging the identities of those who are still embedded within the organization, but mentally out, sharing documents and information, not readily available to the R&F members, or the public. They stand to gain nothing monetarily by going after these individuals, and will undoubtedly lose money if they legally pursue them. So the DMCA subpoenas are really nothing more than a means to an end; exposing, expelling, and plugging the holes.

  And here I thought brothers taking people to court wasn't christian. What happened to remaining neutral, no part of the world, trusting in Jehovah, and his timeline, to defend his people? Pursuing and exposing these people through worldly courts is a good witness and reflects favorably on the organization and Jehovah?

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102008089

  I found the last part of the above link to be of particular note;

  "If such lawsuits are pursued without a spirit of contention, they may not violate the spirit of Paul’s inspired counsel.* Nonetheless, a Christian’s priority should be the sanctification of Jehovah’s name and the peace and unity of the congregation. Christ’s followers are marked first and foremost by their love, and “love . . . does not look for its own interests.”​—1 Corinthians 13:4, 5; John 13:34, 35."
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  Why do some JWs love seeing others get disfellowshipped?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm not sure how many in the organization is like this, but there some jws who love seeing others get disfellowshipped, and my father-in-law is one of those.

  he became a jw because he loved the idea of being the head of the household, and lording it over his family.

  as a jw he is very hypocritical, my husband would tell stories of how they would celebrate christmas until his mother-in-law called him on it.

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  G-zus, you've got a crazy family
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  Rappin' for Jesus

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  "how do we appeal more to the 'youths' ...".

  "... i know - we'll do a religious rap !".

  "kids love that shit ...".

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  Jeff Davis, Rap may not be something you care for, but there is a great deal of really well done, well put together, meaningful, rap out there, that takes an exceptional amount of talent to create and perform.

  But this? This is definitely a train wreck. Laughably, cringeworthy.
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  How do you talk about your adult children, who is getting ready to royally screw up things

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. social
  2. family

  i have two sons, both in their 20's.

  the youngest son has it all figured out, and he is doing great, but my older son (2 years older than his brother) well that is a totally different story.. my eldest has always wanted to do things the hard way, and he has always been this way.

  my husband and i done our best to guide them when they were younger, but we ultimately let them make their own decision in the matter, whatever ever it might have been.

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  My advice, as a guy who has traveled down a similar path, it sounds like your son is headed, sit him down and have an intervention. Do it, only once, be blunt, honest, and harsh about what he's doing and the repercussions. He should know you care enough about him that you'll drop everything and give him some tough advice. Ultimately, its his choice to take the advice, and if he chooses to keep acting in the same fashion, then it's all on him. You did what you could. What do you all have to lose? His family is headed for certain break up of he does not change his ways. Perhaps a serious talking to by his parents is what he needs. If it fails, you tried. As I said, do this only once, and once finished, dont bring it up again, and nag at him about it. As much as you can see the error in his ways, it's his life and his consequences. Some people have to learn the hard way. You cant live his life for him. When he looks back at his life, later on, he will see you tried. I hope it all works out for you all.